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		<title>Comment on Reaching out: How funded project consortia can work with open source communities by Wookie: A case study in sustainability &#124; OSS Watch team blog</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2012/09/05/reaching-out-how-funded-project-consortia-can-work-with-open-community-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-608580</link>
		<dc:creator>Wookie: A case study in sustainability &#124; OSS Watch team blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 11:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unlike previous projects they have focussed on working with existing software projects rather than going it alone, and have contributed code, user studies and content.  This has been a great experience, and hopefully future projects can learn from this approach. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unlike previous projects they have focussed on working with existing software projects rather than going it alone, and have contributed code, user studies and content.  This has been a great experience, and hopefully future projects can learn from this approach. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Source meets Open Standards by LinuxLife Blog &#187; Open Source, Open Standards 2013 Conference Report</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/03/21/open-source-meets-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-607270</link>
		<dc:creator>LinuxLife Blog &#187; Open Source, Open Standards 2013 Conference Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] place in London, an event focused on the public sector. Naturally these being two topics we’re very keen on here at OSS Watch I went along [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Tomorrow&#8217;s World an Open Source one? by Protei by Cesar Harada on BBC Horizon 2013 &#187; Cesar Harada</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/04/17/is-tomorrows-world-an-open-source-one/comment-page-1/#comment-606265</link>
		<dc:creator>Protei by Cesar Harada on BBC Horizon 2013 &#187; Cesar Harada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/04/17/is-tomorrows-world-an-open-source-one/ [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Open Source meets Open Standards by Open Source and Open Standards key to future of public sector IT &#124; OSS Watch team blog</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/03/21/open-source-meets-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-605302</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source and Open Standards key to future of public sector IT &#124; OSS Watch team blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in London, an event focussed on the public sector. Naturally these being two topics we&#8217;re very keen on here at OSS Watch I went along [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in London, an event focussed on the public sector. Naturally these being two topics we&#8217;re very keen on here at OSS Watch I went along [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? by Scott Wilson</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/04/15/shallow-versus-deep-differentiation-do-we-need-more-copyleft-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-604538</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

The main point here is that, whether the license is permissive, weak copyleft or strong copyleft doesn&#039;t make any practical difference if the software is used to run an online service as, unless the license is one that specifically addresses the &quot;service provider loophole&quot; such as AGPL or CPAL, hosting the service is not considered &quot;distribution&quot;, therefore the conditions of the license don&#039;t come into play at all.

(ASL is permissive rather than weak copyleft, however you are right to say that the permissive nature of the ASL does mean that downstream modifiers are at liberty to not contribute back code even where they do distribute binaries.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>The main point here is that, whether the license is permissive, weak copyleft or strong copyleft doesn&#8217;t make any practical difference if the software is used to run an online service as, unless the license is one that specifically addresses the &#8220;service provider loophole&#8221; such as AGPL or CPAL, hosting the service is not considered &#8220;distribution&#8221;, therefore the conditions of the license don&#8217;t come into play at all.</p>
<p>(ASL is permissive rather than weak copyleft, however you are right to say that the permissive nature of the ASL does mean that downstream modifiers are at liberty to not contribute back code even where they do distribute binaries.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Source Junction 4: Open Source Hardware meets Open Source Software by Md Azhar</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/02/11/open-source-junction-4-open-source-hardware-meets-open-source-software/comment-page-1/#comment-604145</link>
		<dc:creator>Md Azhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the exact meaning of open source hardware ?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? by Andy Grimm</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/04/15/shallow-versus-deep-differentiation-do-we-need-more-copyleft-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-603899</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you say of ASL-licensed code:

&#039;they are at liberty to make significant changes to the software without contributing this back to the community developing the core codebase. This is because, under the terms of most open source licenses, providing an online service using software is not considered “distribution” of the software.&#039;

If you were talking about AGPL versus GPL, this quote would be right on.  But you were talking about ASL, in which case it has nothing to do with whether the software is being &quot;distributed&quot;.  Vendors can distribute modifications in binary only form because ASL is a weak copyleft. In fact the GPL is one of the only licenses where this distinction matters at all, which is exactly why AGPL exists alongside it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you say of ASL-licensed code:</p>
<p>&#8216;they are at liberty to make significant changes to the software without contributing this back to the community developing the core codebase. This is because, under the terms of most open source licenses, providing an online service using software is not considered “distribution” of the software.&#8217;</p>
<p>If you were talking about AGPL versus GPL, this quote would be right on.  But you were talking about ASL, in which case it has nothing to do with whether the software is being &#8220;distributed&#8221;.  Vendors can distribute modifications in binary only form because ASL is a weak copyleft. In fact the GPL is one of the only licenses where this distinction matters at all, which is exactly why AGPL exists alongside it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MOOC provider EdX goes open source &#8211; with an interesting choice of licence by Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? &#124; OSS Watch team blog</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/03/26/mooc-provider-edx-goes-open-source-with-an-interesting-choice-of-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-603551</link>
		<dc:creator>Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? &#124; OSS Watch team blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] examples such as EdX highlight that AGPL is a viable alternative for licensing software that runs services, and that [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on How Can Services Be Open Source? by Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? &#124; OSS Watch team blog</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2012/11/06/how-can-services-be-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-603550</link>
		<dc:creator>Shallow versus Deep Differentiation: Do we need more copyleft in the cloud? &#124; OSS Watch team blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a previous post I discussed two different models for open source services; the &#8220;secret source&#8221; model, which is based on providing a differentiated offering on [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on MOOC provider EdX goes open source &#8211; with an interesting choice of licence by MMD: Open Sesame? &#171; Saylor.org &#8211; Free Online Courses Built by Professors</title>
		<link>http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2013/03/26/mooc-provider-edx-goes-open-source-with-an-interesting-choice-of-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-601360</link>
		<dc:creator>MMD: Open Sesame? &#171; Saylor.org &#8211; Free Online Courses Built by Professors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MOOC provider EdX goes open source – with an interesting choice of licence (OSS Watch Team Blog) [...]</description>
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